I took part in a star tour at the Winkelmoosalm a few years ago, which was great. See www.abenteuer-sterne.de. Ever since that experience, I've wanted to go there again. In August 2023 it finally worked out. However, there were a lot of Pleiades watchers there, the hustle and bustle was considerable because I had caught exactly this weekend. But nobody got lost until behind the small lake. I would have liked the reflections of the Milky Way on the surface of the water to be more striking.